DShiznit wrote:
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Kllrnohj wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
So if someone's website hosts the cartoon equivalent of child porn, the proprietor of the TLD isn't going to ban them from using it? They'd be seen by the media as providing material for pedophiles if they didn't take any action.


Uh, no? It isn't the TLD's job to enforce the law - that's the government's job. This isn't something new, this is how the internet already works.


But it isn't against the law everywhere, just some places. It's just that even where it's legal, a large majority of people find it very, very unsavory, and might expect a more regulated domain, like .xxx, to not want to deal with those people. It's also not the best business practice to deal with particularly unsavory and hated individuals when trying to attract larger, wealthier, and more legitimate corporate entities.


.xxx isn't regulated, it's not a business, it's a TLD which is sponsored by a company.


Does that company not regulate it? And here the video told me every .xxx site gets scanned by McAfee, and that they get special status in search engines and filters and such.


Registrars don't have the power to cancel your domain based on anti-virus scans or search engine status.
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Kllrnohj wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
So if someone's website hosts the cartoon equivalent of child porn, the proprietor of the TLD isn't going to ban them from using it? They'd be seen by the media as providing material for pedophiles if they didn't take any action.


Uh, no? It isn't the TLD's job to enforce the law - that's the government's job. This isn't something new, this is how the internet already works.


But it isn't against the law everywhere, just some places. It's just that even where it's legal, a large majority of people find it very, very unsavory, and might expect a more regulated domain, like .xxx, to not want to deal with those people. It's also not the best business practice to deal with particularly unsavory and hated individuals when trying to attract larger, wealthier, and more legitimate corporate entities.


.xxx isn't regulated, it's not a business, it's a TLD which is sponsored by a company.


Does that company not regulate it? And here the video told me every .xxx site gets scanned by McAfee, and that they get special status in search engines and filters and such.


Registrars don't have the power to cancel your domain based on anti-virus scans or search engine status.


Well then what the hell is the point of the antivirus scan? If they can't do anything about one of their domains having viruses why even spend resources checking for them? I'm confused...
DShiznit wrote:
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Kllrnohj wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
So if someone's website hosts the cartoon equivalent of child porn, the proprietor of the TLD isn't going to ban them from using it? They'd be seen by the media as providing material for pedophiles if they didn't take any action.


Uh, no? It isn't the TLD's job to enforce the law - that's the government's job. This isn't something new, this is how the internet already works.


But it isn't against the law everywhere, just some places. It's just that even where it's legal, a large majority of people find it very, very unsavory, and might expect a more regulated domain, like .xxx, to not want to deal with those people. It's also not the best business practice to deal with particularly unsavory and hated individuals when trying to attract larger, wealthier, and more legitimate corporate entities.


.xxx isn't regulated, it's not a business, it's a TLD which is sponsored by a company.


Does that company not regulate it? And here the video told me every .xxx site gets scanned by McAfee, and that they get special status in search engines and filters and such.


Registrars don't have the power to cancel your domain based on anti-virus scans or search engine status.


Well then what the hell is the point of the antivirus scan? If they can't do anything about one of their domains having viruses why even spend resources checking for them? I'm confused...


Well since they have "dedicated search engines" on domain names (So they have power to decide what goes on and not) they can filter out the websites that get listed there.
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Lucas W wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Kllrnohj wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
So if someone's website hosts the cartoon equivalent of child porn, the proprietor of the TLD isn't going to ban them from using it? They'd be seen by the media as providing material for pedophiles if they didn't take any action.


Uh, no? It isn't the TLD's job to enforce the law - that's the government's job. This isn't something new, this is how the internet already works.


But it isn't against the law everywhere, just some places. It's just that even where it's legal, a large majority of people find it very, very unsavory, and might expect a more regulated domain, like .xxx, to not want to deal with those people. It's also not the best business practice to deal with particularly unsavory and hated individuals when trying to attract larger, wealthier, and more legitimate corporate entities.


.xxx isn't regulated, it's not a business, it's a TLD which is sponsored by a company.


Does that company not regulate it? And here the video told me every .xxx site gets scanned by McAfee, and that they get special status in search engines and filters and such.


Registrars don't have the power to cancel your domain based on anti-virus scans or search engine status.


Well then what the hell is the point of the antivirus scan? If they can't do anything about one of their domains having viruses why even spend resources checking for them? I'm confused...


Well since they have "dedicated search engines" on domain names (So they have power to decide what goes on and not) they can filter out the websites that get listed there.


Then that would defeat the entire purpose of a highly-objectionable niche porn site(which are notorious for viruses as a result of not getting hardly any legit ads) getting a .xxx domain(which is what I've been asserting all along).
It was?
DShiznit wrote:
Does that company not regulate it? And here the video told me every .xxx site gets scanned by McAfee, and that they get special status in search engines and filters and such.


That doesn't mean they regulate the content. Theoretically you could host something that ISN'T pr0n on a .xxx TLD as well.

Special status in search engines and filters is just because everyone can very easily recognize the .xxx TLD - it doesn't mean at all that the registrar is who is going to be doing that work.

DShiznit wrote:
But it isn't against the law everywhere, just some places. It's just that even where it's legal, a large majority of people find it very, very unsavory, and might expect a more regulated domain, like .xxx, to not want to deal with those people. It's also not the best business practice to deal with particularly unsavory and hated individuals when trying to attract larger, wealthier, and more legitimate corporate entities.


That doesn't really matter. There are lots of things people find objectionable and want to ban on the internet, that doesn't mean they should be able to. Again, it's the government's job to enforce the laws of the country, not the registrar's. Nothing indicates that .xxx will be "more regulated" in any way, shape, or form.
Kllrnohj wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
Does that company not regulate it? And here the video told me every .xxx site gets scanned by McAfee, and that they get special status in search engines and filters and such.


That doesn't mean they regulate the content. Theoretically you could host something that ISN'T pr0n on a .xxx TLD as well.

Special status in search engines and filters is just because everyone can very easily recognize the .xxx TLD - it doesn't mean at all that the registrar is who is going to be doing that work.

DShiznit wrote:
But it isn't against the law everywhere, just some places. It's just that even where it's legal, a large majority of people find it very, very unsavory, and might expect a more regulated domain, like .xxx, to not want to deal with those people. It's also not the best business practice to deal with particularly unsavory and hated individuals when trying to attract larger, wealthier, and more legitimate corporate entities.


That doesn't really matter. There are lots of things people find objectionable and want to ban on the internet, that doesn't mean they should be able to. Again, it's the government's job to enforce the laws of the country, not the registrar's. Nothing indicates that .xxx will be "more regulated" in any way, shape, or form.


They aren't going to sell many domains if they're associated with potential child abuse. Whether it's right or not, people will make the assumption that those selling this new domain have some say in the content of the sites they do business with(as the video led me to believe). Maybe I'm wrong here, but it would seem to me to be a smarter, wiser business decision to simply choose not to deal with sites who peddle that crap, than to get a bunch of negative PR, however undeserved.

All that's irrelevant however, as the kinds of sites that would have such objectionable content aren't going to buy this new domain, since they won't be able to take advantage of the search engine listings with the viruses they often carry, making it a worthless purchase for them.

Like I said before, the people buying this new domain will be the big names. The little sites will probably stay away.
DShiznit wrote:
They aren't going to sell many domains if they're associated with potential child abuse.


Are you being intentionally stupid or just exceptionally dense?

Plenty of .com domains are sold despite .com being "associated with potential child abuse". Hell, plenty of .org domains are sold despite it being associated with 4chan.
  
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