Precisely, same here.
KermMartian wrote:
Either way, I agree with your classification of it as more intelligent than the average guns-and-explosions movie.
Oh, but don't dismiss all guns-and-explosions movies as being unintelligent. 
The obvious film to match against Inception is Total Recall. benryves wrote:
KermMartian wrote:
Either way, I agree with your classification of it as more intelligent than the average guns-and-explosions movie.
Oh, but don't dismiss all guns-and-explosions movies as being unintelligent. The obvious film to match against Inception is Total Recall.
KermMartian wrote:
benryves wrote:
KermMartian wrote:
Either way, I agree with your classification of it as more intelligent than the average guns-and-explosions movie.
Oh, but don't dismiss all guns-and-explosions movies as being unintelligent. The obvious film to match against Inception is Total Recall.Matrix
/debate over, I win.
Are you arguing a guns-and-explosions movie with intelligence, or without? Because I think they were going for a complex religious and philosophic undertone
KermMartian wrote:
benryves wrote:
KermMartian wrote:
Either way, I agree with your classification of it as more intelligent than the average guns-and-explosions movie.
Oh, but don't dismiss all guns-and-explosions movies as being unintelligent. The obvious film to match against Inception is Total Recall.The key word in my argument was all. There are plenty of enjoyable brainless action films (and plenty of unenjoyable ones like the Transformer films you mentioned), but that doesn't mean that they're all like that. RoboCop and Starship Troopers are further examples from Paul Verhoeven that demonstrate that an ultra-violent action film can still have some brains underneath all that blood.
KermMartian wrote:
Are you arguing a guns-and-explosions movie with intelligence, or without? Because I think they were going for a complex religious and philosophic undertone
I'm arguing that guns-and-explosions movies with intelligence exist - as proven by the Matrix. Thus '/debate' (kind of sad I had to explain that to you...).
Are you saying complex religious and philosophic undertones aren't intelligent?
Kllrnohj wrote:
KermMartian wrote:
Are you arguing a guns-and-explosions movie with intelligence, or without? Because I think they were going for a complex religious and philosophic undertone
I'm arguing that guns-and-explosions movies with intelligence exist - as proven by the Matrix. Thus '/debate' (kind of sad I had to explain that to you...).
Are you saying complex religious and philosophic undertones aren't intelligent?
KermMartian wrote:
there are lots of people who claim the Matrix is just pseudo-philosophical and lacks any real substance.
Those people are simply too stupid to understand.
KermMartian wrote:
I wasn't sure which side you were taking, since you usually take the most dystopic and pessimistic view of everyone and everything around you.
Ha. *chuckles*
KermMartian wrote:
I generally think they are, but there are lots of people who claim the Matrix is just pseudo-philosophical and lacks any real substance.
I found Dark City to be a much more interesting take on what is a very similar idea.
benryves wrote:
KermMartian wrote:
I generally think they are, but there are lots of people who claim the Matrix is just pseudo-philosophical and lacks any real substance.
I found Dark City to be a much more interesting take on what is a very similar idea.
swivelgames wrote:
Awesome review. Awesome movie. I absolutely loved it.
Almost made me think of The Matrix.
Very nice, glad to hear that you enjoyed it, Swivelgames.
Almost made me think of The Matrix.
I saw it, and loved it. It tickled all of my nerdy passions. It was up there on BEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME. Not the best, but worth my 6 bucks!
adept wrote:
I saw it, and loved it. It tickled all of my nerdy passions. It was up there on BEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME. Not the best, but worth my 6 bucks!
Ah nice, someone else knows about the weekend morning price. Aye, it was on the nerdier side of movies, even though the McGuffin was not hugely sci-fi'y. 
I've seen it twice. It's a great movie, and definitely worth seeing a second time (if just to understand it more)
So, is he in a dream at the end or not? (I think he's in reality.)
So, is he in a dream at the end or not? (I think he's in reality.)
"You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you can't be sure. But it doesn't matter - because we'll be together. "
"You keep telling yourself what you know. But what do you believe? What do you feel? "
MRide wrote:
I've seen it twice. It's a great movie, and definitely worth seeing a second time (if just to understand it more)
So, is he in a dream at the end or not? (I think he's in reality.)
I'd like to believe it's reality. So, is he in a dream at the end or not? (I think he's in reality.)
What new things did you pick up on the second time around?
Sidebar, I'm going to fix your avatar and signature.
Edit: You fixed your avatar, need help with the sig?
Already changed my avatar. Didn't realize it was going to be so big. It shrinks down in omnimaga.
"You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you can't be sure. But it doesn't matter - because we'll be together. "
"You keep telling yourself what you know. But what do you believe? What do you feel? "
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