Ban xLibMan?
Yes
 47%  [ 8 ]
No
 52%  [ 9 ]
Total Votes : 17

Yeah, but I have a site reputation to uphold. If I ban him, there will be an outcry, and everyone who thinks well of Kevin and Omnimaga will turn against us (at least tto some extent).
that is true, Kerm made the right move by trying to keep peace. People like tifreak8x and myself don't need to be caught in the middle of this kind of stuff.
rivereye wrote:
that is true, Kerm made the right move by trying to keep peace. People like tifreak8x and myself don't need to be caught in the middle of this kind of stuff.


and myself.....
I am afraid that I am going to have to side with Kllr on this one. Even though he was defending me, he managed to set me off worse than I was without him. He wouldn't ignore many requests by Elfprince, myself, and whoever else was on, I think it was Something, but I am perty sure I am wrong. We all warned him that he was going to get in trouble, but he wouldn't calm down.
KermMartian wrote:
Yeah, but I have a site reputation to uphold. If I ban him, there will be an outcry, and everyone who thinks well of Kevin and Omnimaga will turn against us (at least tto some extent).


If you do that, he will continue to hold his own site hostage to get his way. He is acting childish, disobeyed an admin's command, and has caused nothing but trouble here. Ban him, but don't make it public. Then no one will say anything because he doesn't come here enough for anyone to care.
netham45 wrote:
I am afraid that I am going to have to side with Kllr on this one. Even though he was defending me, he managed to set me off worse than I was without him. He wouldn't ignore many requests by Elfprince, myself, and whoever else was on, I think it was Something, but I am perty sure I am wrong. We all warned him that he was going to get in trouble, but he wouldn't calm down.
I was watching but not participating; as with the other admins and mods, I didn't want to get involved. And Kllrnohj, I don't care if he holds his site hostage; that's his perogative. Re: your second statement: he would announce it eventually when he discovered it, which would have the same effect.
I am going to try and talk to xlibman the next time I see him online and see if this all can be put to rest.
Superb. That would be excellent.
the kicker is getting online when he is (can't seem to do that lately). I might be able to pull it off on Saturday though.
Kllrnohj wrote:
KermMartian wrote:
Fair enough, I can live with that. He's shown good behavior in the past, so I can justify letting him off easy this time.


I don't think xlibman should be allowed back at all. He is the worst type of member you can have. You say he has shown good behavior in the past... umm... no he hasn't. Remember BPC? Remember the last petition he made against me and jpez? It would seem to me that the ONLY time xlibman EVER posts is when he is joining a flame war/noob bash. His behavior during this particular incident is disgusting. He claims to be a defender of n00bs, yet all he does is flame in return. Keep him banned, his has done nothing good here that I can see.
Yeah, if xlibman isn't banned, then WHO is banned? What could you POSSIBLY do that would be worse than what he did? If we look back, he has either caused or been a major instigator in EVERY SINGLE crisis these forums have experienced. If you're concerned about a positive site image, then banning him is the right thing to do. By not banning him, you set yourself up for yet another one of his irrational outbursts. The only other solution is to ban me. If you feel that's the right thing to do, go ahead. I just really don't feel like going through another one of his tantrums just because I'm keeping someone in line on the forums.
<< [adds a tally to the number of miniature Civil Wars that have happened so far across the community] >>
KermMartian wrote:
I was watching but not participating; as with the other admins and mods, I didn't want to get involved. And Kllrnohj, I don't care if he holds his site hostage; that's his perogative. Re: your second statement: he would announce it eventually when he discovered it, which would have the same effect.


Listen to yourself for a second. You are making drastic exceptions to the rules just because of who he is OUTSIDE of cemetech! If anyone else had done that they would have been banned without hesitation. If anyone were to have done that at omnimaga chances are they would have been banned there, as well. You shouldn't be forced to defend him just because you fear a backlash from the community (which probably won't happen anyway)

Oh, and I have yet to see him apologize for his behavior in any of the incidents. He doesn't deserve another chance.
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Kllrnohj wrote:
Oh, and I have yet to see him apologize for his behavior in any of the incidents. He doesn't deserve another chance.

I believe you are wrong, he did apoligize.
SAX logs wrote:
19:07:54 xlibman: but that should explain a bit my strange behaviour, and I am sorry about this
19:08:10 xlibman: and the crap I've caused earlier
19:08:49 xlibman: I do not and will not apologise for what jpez did, but I apologise for my spam and angry posts I've posted earlier
19:09:13 xlibman: i do not apologise for jpez cuz I am still against what he did
19:09:29 xlibman: and I didnt even knew netham was banned because I blow up earlier
19:09:40 xlibman: i thought it was because of his annoyance
19:09:57 xlibman: well according to swivel post actually
19:10:29 xlibman: ijust dont like to see fights like this in the community
19:10:35 xlibman: this end up making ppl leave
19:10:38 elfprince13: nor do I
19:10:59 xlibman: and we may lose future basic/asm gurus because of this
...
19:17:25 xlibman: swivel i meant I would start the petition myself
19:17:33 xlibman: for if I should leave or not
19:17:41 xlibman: because I've done very bad
19:18:55 xlibman: and again sorry
...
19:28:36 swivelgames: Xlib, lets drpp the subject. Sound good everyone?
19:28:45 xlibman: well
19:28:50 xlibman: i could drop it
19:29:13 xlibman: but i just feel some ppl doesnt care at all about my situation and doesnt seems to accept apologies

One of those people could be Kllrnohj... Evil or Very Mad
Yeah, I guess that's kinda an apology. Well, so far the "nays" are winning in the petition.
He did apologize, many times actually. I think it was unacceptable what he did, but he did apologize many times.
...but he clearly didn't mean it since he's apologized before for the exact same thing.
Perhaps, but it would be wise to discontinue such posts. The idea is to create a resolution, not to provoke another occurance.
swivelgames wrote:
He did apologize, many times actually. I think it was unacceptable what he did, but he did apologize many times.


By apologize I meant something formal in a thread/post HERE, on the forums, not just a passing statement in AIM/SAX/IRC/etc..
True, that he did.
  
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