[edit]First off, it was not my intention to offend you, Ben, but I'm assuming I did. I'm just annoyed that there's still even the mention of this mess still going on. It is out of everyone's hands, but as a member of this community I was hoping to give my input on the matter, whether offensively, or by pleading (which seldom works). Pleading hasn't worked in the past so I'm at the point now that I'm just going to be blunt from now on, since that method seems to have worked best. I just want the best for this project, the community, and it's members. I feel that any mention of Retail or direction change because of Retail is flat-out unnecessary.
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elrunethe2nd wrote:
Frankly, your conceptions, misplaced or no, regarding what precisely TBG is and isn't do not come into the matter.
TBG undeniably is part of Blockland and TBM as long as it uses the brick and the cheap yellow Minifigure from the alpha. To demand dissociation is kind of futile, given how much the games share between them.
Dissociation is a choice, elrune, lol. You are talking about their relation. No sh*t their related, they're both brick building games. Dissociation means cooperation among this community's several members to severe the ties between the TBG community and the Blockland community. As of right now, there is absolutely no reason to continue to associate with them because all that has done is spark controversy. If both parties can get along (highly unlikely) then theres no reason to severe ties. But both sides have proven to be unable to handle the situation or come to an agreement.
elrunethe2nd wrote:
Retail forums already believe TBG to be TBM with a new GUI.
You cannot make it your game in the eyes of the people when the people can very clearly see that it is still TBM, or, at least, strongly tied to it, regardless of how many Cemetech logos you try to slap on it!
When did I ever say we needed to make it our game in the eyes of Retail? You're shooting into the bushes, the target is behind you. The point is to stop (1) worrying about Retail's negative, non-constructive, instigative opinion so much, and (2) trying to convince them that it is it's own game because we all know that's not going to happen. Instead, worry about our game, not what they're going to think. Regardless of whether or not they're going to look alike (they're all based off LEGOs for christ's sake, of course they're going to look a like!), the point is to make them game what we want it to be, not Retail doesn't want it to be.
elrunethe2nd wrote:
Also, you absolutely cannot stop competition between the games when they are the only thing this game can be compared to. That is like an inferior jelly brand requesting that people stop comparing them to slightly more expensive jelly brands simply because they deliver a better product - not likely to happen if people are aware of the alternatives!
I agree with this for the most part, I apologize for my earlier comment, because it was not clear. What we ultimately compare ourselves to should not necessarily be who we're competing with, though. Understand TBG/Freebuild is competing with Retail, RTB, and TBM. All of those. But what we should be comparing the game to is not Retail, RTB, or TBM, but instead LEGOs and our vision for the game.
elrunethe2nd wrote:
What I was trying to say is I don't want some convert or whatever from Retail to roll in and remark about how curiously similar the jeeps are. It would do no good for the sake of a jeep that looks /that way/. Can you agree on one with a slightly different shape?
And what I'm saying is there's no reason to worry about it. If Retail wants to complain about it, let them. If we were to make this Jeep, the Jeep would be based off of the LEGO Jeep shown in that set, not Retail's. Let them make false claims all they want, none of us should be affected by that, because that's just ridiculous. It's a game based on LEGO, they're going to look a like. They can get over it if they want to complain about it.