- TI Can't Stop Being [Removed]
- 01 Jul 2020 11:07:50 pm
- Last edited by mr womp womp on 03 Dec 2021 07:22:22 pm; edited 6 times in total
Its time for Texas Instruments serial numbers 101!
Since the early 1980s, TI has used the following:
[S/N] [factory_ID]-[Date_Code][HW_Version], so a typical full serial number would look something like this: 2607036396 P-0610G.
They also use this nomenclature on devices that aren't calculators like the TI-Nspire Wireless Module, the TI-Navigator and the Charging docks
They also generally throw in a "V" in the serial number to denote a ViewScreen variant.
This made it very easy to keep track of different hardware revisions.
Of course, TI being the big mess that they are, they couldn't stick to the formula...
This messy nomenclature (or lack thereof) can get quite confusing but its possible to keep track of it all and that's exactly what we've been doing. However, TI decided to throw a wrench in our plans...
About a month ago, BrandonW discovered that TI had changed how their serial numbers are arranged.
Initially, this was spotted on a TI-84 Plus CE, but I've also seen it on a TI-84 Plus and a TI-83 Plus, so it seems they will probably be using this new nomenclature for everything from now on. The new format seems to contain very little useful information. As of yet, it seems to be a letter "A" or "B" followed by some cryptic digits and letters (looks like hex?).
Here's what it looks like:
(The TI-83 Plus is way too fuzzy to make out what the serial number is, but its clearly the new style)
I noticed that back in the 80s, TI used similar serial numbers for some scientific/4-function calculators such as the TI-1200 series. I don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they are randomly switching back to whatever they were doing back then.
Currently, I don't know what the numbers mean, if anything... I'm waiting to get a larger sample of calculators from different months to see if we can spot any patterns, but for now we've only spotted about 10 calculators with the new serial numbers, so its very hard to tell.
In order to try to figure it out, I've created a GSheets to keep track of all the new serial numbers and any relevant information. Hopefully once we get a large enough sample spanning multiple months, patterns will emerge.
So if you come across anything with the new serial numbers I would greatly appreciate if you could take the time to add it to the GSheets! I've made it public so anyone can modify it.
Here is the link!
Currently, I've noticed that all the 84+ and 84+CE serial numbers start with "A" while the 83+ serial numbers start with "B".
I've also noticed that the letters seem to be towards the lower end of the alphabet, which looks a lot like hex, but trying to convert it to decimal didn't reveal any pattern that I could make out, perhaps some portions are hex and others aren't...
On the bright side, these new serial numbers are visible on the outside of the packaging so it should be easier to gather information about them. It will also be an easy way to identify newer TI-84 Plus CE versions. The ones on the market right now seem to be HW N, OS 5.4.0, but soon enough, it will transition to 5.5.1, so we can tell people that they should get one with the old-style serial numbers if they don't want to risk receiving a steaming pile of garbage.
Here's what the stickers on the back of the packaging look like:
Since the early 1980s, TI has used the following:
[S/N] [factory_ID]-[Date_Code][HW_Version], so a typical full serial number would look something like this: 2607036396 P-0610G.
They also use this nomenclature on devices that aren't calculators like the TI-Nspire Wireless Module, the TI-Navigator and the Charging docks
They also generally throw in a "V" in the serial number to denote a ViewScreen variant.
This made it very easy to keep track of different hardware revisions.
Of course, TI being the big mess that they are, they couldn't stick to the formula...
- When they changed factories, they sometimes reset the hardware revisions back to A, so for example, S-0504A and K-0412A are both existing TI-84 Plus versions even though from 2004 to 2012, TI produced every single revision from A to V. Its also important to note that some of the more popular calculators were produced simultaneously at different factories so the timelines overlap.
- Once TI reached revision Z, they moved on to AA.
- For a very small number of TI-81s and TI-82s (ViewScreens), they placed the serial number sticker on the inside and placed a different serial number sticker on the back of the case. These are generally referred to as VB variants.
- They deviated slightly from this formula with the TI-84 Plus CE by throwing in digits, so revisions B0, B1 and A0 have all been spotted.
- TI tends to start with no revision at all and then use A to denote the 2nd revision. These are generally referred to as "pre-A".
- In the case of the TI-Nspire CX2 series, they continued the revisions from the CX1 series, so the last CX1 revision was AE, and the first revision of the CX2 series was also AE.
- TI also deviates from the nomenclature for prototypes, opting instead for more meaningful serial numbers such as "P3-ASIC-DVT1.2 0318", or sometimes no serial number at all (usually in the early prototyping stages but not so much recently).
- Sometimes they make changes to the hardware but don't change the revision on the back.
- We've also spotted a handful of unexplained anomalies such as this "2110006362 P-HY08S" which is hypothesized to be a hybrid that would have been produced in 2 different factories (P and S) and this "2016019730 AS-0507" among others.
This messy nomenclature (or lack thereof) can get quite confusing but its possible to keep track of it all and that's exactly what we've been doing. However, TI decided to throw a wrench in our plans...
About a month ago, BrandonW discovered that TI had changed how their serial numbers are arranged.
Initially, this was spotted on a TI-84 Plus CE, but I've also seen it on a TI-84 Plus and a TI-83 Plus, so it seems they will probably be using this new nomenclature for everything from now on. The new format seems to contain very little useful information. As of yet, it seems to be a letter "A" or "B" followed by some cryptic digits and letters (looks like hex?).
Here's what it looks like:
(The TI-83 Plus is way too fuzzy to make out what the serial number is, but its clearly the new style)
I noticed that back in the 80s, TI used similar serial numbers for some scientific/4-function calculators such as the TI-1200 series. I don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they are randomly switching back to whatever they were doing back then.
Currently, I don't know what the numbers mean, if anything... I'm waiting to get a larger sample of calculators from different months to see if we can spot any patterns, but for now we've only spotted about 10 calculators with the new serial numbers, so its very hard to tell.
In order to try to figure it out, I've created a GSheets to keep track of all the new serial numbers and any relevant information. Hopefully once we get a large enough sample spanning multiple months, patterns will emerge.
So if you come across anything with the new serial numbers I would greatly appreciate if you could take the time to add it to the GSheets! I've made it public so anyone can modify it.
Here is the link!
Currently, I've noticed that all the 84+ and 84+CE serial numbers start with "A" while the 83+ serial numbers start with "B".
I've also noticed that the letters seem to be towards the lower end of the alphabet, which looks a lot like hex, but trying to convert it to decimal didn't reveal any pattern that I could make out, perhaps some portions are hex and others aren't...
On the bright side, these new serial numbers are visible on the outside of the packaging so it should be easier to gather information about them. It will also be an easy way to identify newer TI-84 Plus CE versions. The ones on the market right now seem to be HW N, OS 5.4.0, but soon enough, it will transition to 5.5.1, so we can tell people that they should get one with the old-style serial numbers if they don't want to risk receiving a steaming pile of garbage.
Here's what the stickers on the back of the packaging look like: